One theory I find intresting is that Shalka Doctor might actually be a younger version of the War Doctor (Sfdebris went into more detail on the idea here: blip.tv/sf-debris-opinionated-…. Shalka Doc's more aggresive behaviour would fit in with the WD's supposed 'Warrior' persona. Plus it would be pretty fitting in a couple of ways, since it would bookmark the aniversary specials by having him established in the 40th and brought back for the 50th, not to mention the irony of having the BBC banish the original 9th Doctor from canon, only for the Doctor himself to do the same in-universe.
I think "Shalka" and "War" are too different... but it IS an interesting theory with some cool aspects!
God, can you imagine the shockwaves that would've happened if Grant turned around in Shalka garb at the very end of NAME OF THE DOCTOR, instead of John Hurt??? Though they'd need to rectify that with the Great Intelligence being assimilated into the Doctor's timestream- but obviously, there would be ways to make that all dovetail together. Probably would've been too confusing and fanwanky for most viewers though.
For my money, the Shalka Doctor is what "should" have been- the Doctor that would've happened if Eight never had his fateful crash on Karn. There's all sorts of crazy parallels- he's survived some sot of tragedy, all the Time Lords are dead, and Derek Jacobi is still the Master. Maybe the point of divergence is even further down the line (when he used "the Moment", maybe?) and he's the "Ninth" the same way Eccleston was. There's something really appropriate about how much continuity confusion and retconning surrounds the years of the Doctor's life where he fought in a massive history-changing TIme War.
I theorize that the Shalka Doctor was a consequence of The Great Intelligence and Doctor both entering the Doctor's time stream during Name of the Doctor. Some aspect of both of them merged together to form an amalgamated being. Think about it, a darker, angrier version of the Doctor that also happens to look just like The Great Intelligence, is it just a coincidence? I don't think so.
Also, if that is true, it could also mean that the Shalka doctor is actually a younger version of the Valeyard, a version that existed before the Valeyard discarded the name of the Doctor and turned full blown evil. The timing would be right. According to the Master in Trial of A Time Lord, the Valeyard was created some time around the 12th or 13th incarnation of the Doctor, or in other words, around the Smith or Capaldi eras. Also, Moffat made a point of dropping the Valeyard's name during Name of the Doctor, so I can't help but wonder if this is really Moffat's plan after all.
I've heard similar theories (and don't necessarily disagree). But the Master's exact words are a much more ambiguous "between your twelfth and final incarnation". People assumed at the time that "final" equalled "13th" (which is also why many folks decided he must be some strange degenerate half-incarnation- which is contrary to what Robert Holmes and Eric Saward intended)- but obviously things have changed now. The Valeyard could be anyone from the 14th to the 245th Doctor and beyond.
I do think it's possible Moff could have a bigger agenda with the name-drop (even though he's denied it). He loves paying off things hinted at years in advance (sometimes not even from his own stories- like all the Queen Elizabeth stuff from the Tennant era getting explained in Day of the Doctor).
I agree with you. Your point has also been previously mention to me. I'll admit that I really love Richard E Grant's portrayal of the Doctor, and that I am a little bit desperate to have him back in cannon, but I insist that this is what makes the most amount of sense from a story telling position. I dobt that the BBC would ever allow the Doctor to do anything that would tarnish his image for the general audience. That's why the Valeyard's origin is so unclear in the first place. Originally, the Valeyard was written to be the Doctors 13th incarnation turned evil by the fear of his pending death, but John Nathan-Turner said, "Nope! We can't have the Doctor turning completely evil," and so the script was rewritten so that the Valeyard was a splinter manifestation of the Doctor's evil originating from in-between the Doctor's 12th and 13th incarnations. You're right about how the new Regeneration Cycle provides a loophole in what the Master said, but as I said, I don't think the BBC or any show-runner would allow the Doctor to grow so evil that he would become capable of turning into the Valeyard. Would they flirt with the notion? Yes, ala "I am the Time Lord Victorious," and manifestations like the Dream Lord. But, would they go full blown, balls to the walls evil? No. The only way they would do that is with an incarnation of the Doctor that they could say wasn't really the Doctor, like a splinter or copy of the original. The Shalka Doctor would provide that opportunity, especially following the events of Name of the Doctor.
Plus, if that was true, we could see a kind of Anekin Skywalker fall to the Dark Side type of story, and I would really like to see Richard portray that kind of arch for his Doctor. His Doctor was already grappling with similar themes in Scream of the Shalka and Feast of Stone. This would just be a great, although tragic extansion of the personal struggles that we have already seen with The Shalka Doctor. But, I've prattled on long enough.
I know im late in saying this but omg marry me! Lol just kidding, but I really agree with all this. I want Richard to be the Doctor ever since I found out about Scream of the Shalka. Oh an Curse of Fatal Death, love that.
The way you have explained things I think would work, an incarnation of the Doctor that turns darker would be a good enemy for the Doctor seeing as the Master is no longer in it.
I don't usually accept marriage proposals from people I haven't met, but I'd be up for grabbing a slice of pizza sometime. lol
Seriously though, I'm glad to know someone else feels as passionately about this as I do. I was starting to think I was obsessing a little too much. It seemed like such a great idea, but people just kept rolling their eyes at me whenever I mentioned it. Good to know I'm not alone on this. Thanks.
hey, put Bill Nighy in that outfit and call him #12, I'm sorry,but that looks like a Nighy outfit to me(?)...right....I Love your work though....hey personal opinion on this one...do you think Sean Pertwee should be on the new series?
Yeah, Nighy has a slightly vampiric look that would suit that costume well.
And Sean Pertwee? He's an awesome actor- I like to see him in anything. I'm less sure about him standing in for his dad as the Third Doctor though (as many people have suggested). Ethical debate aside, I've always thought the fun of multi-Doctor stories is seeing the actual actors who've played the Doctors differently butting heads. Something would be missing if another actor was filling in (like Richard Hurndall in The Five Doctors), and it makes it kinda pointless.
Then again, a good script changes everything. Never say never.
indeed, i agree and although it is obivious casting for pertwee to be the man of action, i would actually prefer him to replace john simm as the master. that would both satiate fan boys and be brilliant casting...
"Fan speculation has put forward the (slim) possibility that this version is in fact the younger, more reckless past self of the First Doctor, given that they share several personality traits (including arrogance and eccentricity), a Late Victorian-Early Edwardian fashion sense, and have a similar face and hairstyle."